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« on: November 18, 2007, 10:50:06 PM »

How about considering have another major section - entitled  "Venting Room"  - Topics would be for those responses that normally don't fit into the general discussion.  Such as Personal Revelations, What I believe - not necessarily the Christian idealogue. So that we can get a "flavor" of what other religions think about subject matters.  Ideas - that may not necessary be compatible with Christian theology. A "melting pot" of all thought patterns - to allow everyone to have a spot for their personal opinions in their own truths.
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 08:30:28 AM »

Ok, glad you have friends who are NOT christian - does that mean we are getting a new section - Need clarification.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 09:01:16 AM »

How about considering have another major section - entitled  "Venting Room"  - Topics would be for those responses that normally don't fit into the general discussion.  Such as Personal Revelations, What I believe - not necessarily the Christian idealogue. So that we can get a "flavor" of what other religions think about subject matters.  Ideas - that may not necessary be compatible with Christian theology. A "melting pot" of all thought patterns - to allow everyone to have a spot for their personal opinions in their own truths.

Don't you do that already in the dangerous questions area? Wink
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2007, 02:08:37 PM »

This is going to have to ultimately be answered by Bruce.

My thought, however, is that LifeQuest Online is set up to investigate the claims of Christ. We have the freedom to ask and dialog on any question and use whatever knowledge we have. But, ultimately, it is designed to draw us all- Christian or not- closer to Christ.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2007, 04:04:34 PM »

Yeah... I think a "venting room" might encourage people to argue with each other instead of discuss peacefully.

Those are exactly my fears. I also want to add that I prefer to keep moderation activities to a minimum. I will have to think on this one; Bruce might also have good input.

That being said, I see nothing that says that you are not free to discuss your ideas. If you want to contend that space aliens are responsible for all the miraculous events in the Bible, you may do so. Though I do plan on challenging such ideas, simply because that is a part of intellectual discourse.  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2007, 09:13:56 PM »

Ahh yes -those space aliens - I remember now.  They populated the world a long time ago. 
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Dangerous questions is a wonderful section. However, the down side is that it is limited per the guidelines put in effect by Bruce that we try to dialogue in the Christian faith only.

I believe that it was for people to ask Questions about the Christian faith so that through dialogue there would be clarification on the subject but from a Christian perspective.

Example  Re: If you get a divorce or your spouse dies, do you have to wait to marry for sex
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Bruce states: "I suggest this because this web site is about investigating the claims of Christ and his teachings as represented in the scriptures."

I understand the rule he has posted. Which is why I may agree with others based on the Christian teaching of the scriptures, but may not in my personal life. 


Yeah... I think a "venting room" might encourage people to argue with each other instead of discuss peacefully.
Yes there will others who will use as Amanda has noted today - "Those are exactly my fears. I also want to add that I prefer to keep moderation activities to a minimum."

So the question gets down to whether this site is being set up for just Christian thinkers and not about the interplay of intellect from all over the board, or whether there is a "fear" about new and radical thoughts. Debating your points against other points made by other religions.  This may be the opportunity for those NON CHRISTIANS that everyone knows to express themselves and get into a relationship with others on the board.  It also makes the rest of us become more aware of the differences in customs and theologies. We all would have to dwelve into the research on each others religion. And isn't that what we all want- to be able to empathize and understand each other. 

You have the board rules- it is not that hard to moderate within the rules.  One just needs to step up to the plate, monitor and help facilitate the threads to maintain civility and understanding.  How hard is it to "block" someone off that misuses the thread.  I know my brother has a blog website and he can block out any IP address he chooses, in about 10 seconds.  There are ways to address that issue. That is why each of you took on the job isn't it? To help people see what Christianity offers? Not to limit thoughts, but to encourage interaction, it is through that interaction that people may actually be persuaded to listen to what LifeQuest has to offer.

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 09:23:59 PM »

Yes but the minute I start bullying people who don't agree with me, is the minute that any intellectual discussion ceases. The reason I have so many hours logged on the board is that I carefully monitor every conversation.

So the question gets down to whether this site is being set up for just Christian thinkers and not about the interplay of intellect from all over the board, or whether there is a "fear" about new and radical thoughts. Debating your points against other points made by other religions.  This may be the opportunity for those NON CHRISTIANS that everyone knows to express themselves and get into a relationship with others on the board.  It also makes the rest of us become more aware of the differences in customs and theologies. We all would have to dwelve into the research on each others religion. And isn't that what we all want- to be able to empathize and understand each other.

When have I or anyone else censored you? Bruce's intentions were to maintain peace, not to tell you to shut up. For goodness sake, I myself have said things that would make a straight lace, republican, conservative, Christians' skin crawl. (of course, in many cases, that really doesn't take much). I want this to be a place where we can come together as friends and have fun, discuss ideas, make jokes, even get mad at each other and have to apologize. So far, I think we have succeeded. I don't always agree with you Paul, but I still highly respect your opinion, and often make me think about things from an angle I hadn't quite considered before. (which is a feat... I've come across many strange ideas Wink over the years).
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 08:57:04 AM »

How about considering have another major section - entitled  "Venting Room"  - Topics would be for those responses that normally don't fit into the general discussion.  Such as Personal Revelations, What I believe - not necessarily the Christian idealogue. So that we can get a "flavor" of what other religions think about subject matters.  Ideas - that may not necessary be compatible with Christian theology. A "melting pot" of all thought patterns - to allow everyone to have a spot for their personal opinions in their own truths.

This is the purpose for dialoging. LifeQuest Online was created to investigate the claims of Christ, as Bruce has stated many times. I don't think we can investigate Christ if He is not somewhere in the dialogue. We are all encouraged (and have exercised) our ideas, personal revelations, and what other religions think about subject matters. To have a seperate section, devoted to everything non-Christian, seems to be the exact opposite of our goal. LifeQuest is a safe place to ask dangerous questions, but it is still about being followers of Christ.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 11:25:01 AM »

Overseer -  I thin you mistook what I was trying to say. I don't feel that anyone has bullied me, I am just throwing out an idea to encompass more readers that might be attracted to dialogue.  If you look at Jesus, he went where? into the heart of the opposition, sinners, tax collectors, prostitutes, all these he had dialogue with and some of them even became great supporters of his idealogy.

I just didn't want to leave that avenue shut for building relationships.

As long as I understand what the criteria is, I have no difficulty in dialogueing with anyone within the specified guidelines. 

It is sometimes more entertaining and stimulating to me.   Shocked Shocked  Shocked

By the way, Roy - love your comments - they are wonderful.  Some of them I even agree with.  But I think of you and everyone else at LifeQuest as friends.  We all agree to disagree.


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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 11:37:08 AM »

By the way, Roy - love your comments - they are wonderful.  Some of them I even agree with.  But I think of you and everyone else at LifeQuest as friends.  We all agree to disagree.

I think the same of you Paul! My point was simply that the less moderation is necessary, the better. So far, we have had to ban not one person, and not one topic. I like that. There will probably come a day where that will change, but eh... In any case, I've been a part of many forums over the years, and I've seen alot of people abuse their authority against people they disagreed with. That's definitely not my style.
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