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« on: April 15, 2008, 01:32:49 PM » |
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Does anyone know how to go about getting a free book of Mormon without being bothered by LDS missionaries?
I have the e-book, but I'd like the hard copy as well. I'm also interested in picking up a copy of the Qur'an [again, I'm cheap and would like to get the printed version for free without people trying to convert me].
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2008, 02:06:23 PM » |
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Good luck with that.  (I don't know how to get free copies of either of those.) |
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2008, 02:54:27 PM » |
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Hahaha...I could ask my neighbor's if they have an extra one - the next time I see them I'll ask them, although for living in a condo I really don't see them that much...they don't really come out much.
I just threw away one of the little pamphlets that had the elders numbers on it. Maybe you could even check on Half.com (cheap books), craigslist (for a cheap copy) or freecycle.org.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2008, 02:57:22 PM » |
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Yeah you're right, I could get a cheap copy. However, I don't want a cheap copy. I want a free copy. I guess I'll just have to suck it up and call the number to get my free book of Mormon delivered and somehow convince them to leave me alone after procuring it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2008, 03:02:54 PM » |
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Haha, what do you say?
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2008, 03:11:55 PM » |
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Well, to the JW's, I just start asking questions that the Watchtower society doesn't have answers to. It normally makes them defensive in person, and via email/phone they just stop responding. Kind of sad, 'cause I was enjoying learning about that religion...
For starters, you could point out how their faith relies of the authenticity of Joseph Smith and all the LDS prophets. Point out how if anyone gives a prophecy and it does not come true, then they are not a true prophet (Deut 18:22). Then point out silly things that the prophets have said -
Joseph Smith said that tall men dressed as Quakers live on the moon.
Brigham Young said that men live on the sun, as well.
Joseph Smith prophesied that Jesus would return by 1891.
Really doesn't go over well.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 03:22:25 PM » |
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For starters, you could point out how their faith relies of the authenticity of Joseph Smith and all the LDS prophets. Couldn't you do the same for Christianity, in the old testament with Moses, and in the new with Paul, etc? |
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2008, 03:26:18 PM » |
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Couldn't you do the same for Christianity, in the old testament with Moses, and in the new with Paul, etc?
I suppose you could if you could point out and prove where Moses or Paul had prophesied and it didn't come true. |
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2008, 03:42:34 PM » |
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For starters, you could point out how their faith relies of the authenticity [...] of the prophets I was speaking strictly of that. However, I guess if you count the historical events that were claimed to have happened in the Bible and most likely didn't, then the historical accounts were not true. Though, I don't think many people take these account as literal any more, so it's hard to say what the original intent was. |
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2008, 03:52:36 PM » |
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Well, the difference is that Joseph smith is the founder of Mormonism; Moses and paul weren't the founders of Christianity, though they do play important roles. I've never seen any real evidence stating that any prophecy given in the Bible was false, as is the case in Mormonism, and in JW.
You've lost me (with the history part).
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2008, 03:57:19 PM » |
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Historical:
1) Creation of a planet and transforming it in 6 days
2) Adam and Eve/talking snakes.
3) Parting of the Red Sea
4) Dragons
etc.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2008, 03:59:48 PM » |
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Well, I don't think you can say for sure whether they did or did not happen. The Bible is the only place that records those events. I understand that's a problem for some people. But those weren't prophesies...they were records of history. What dragons  Revelations?? |
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2008, 04:11:01 PM » |
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But those weren't prophesies...they were records of history. It's much easier to record the past than it is to predict the future don't you think? I think it's more discrediting to get something wrong that has already happened than something that is going to happen. What dragons Revelations?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bel_and_the_Dragon |
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2008, 04:24:57 PM » |
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It's much easier to record the past than it is to predict the future don't you think? I think it's more discrediting to get something wrong that has already happened than something that is going to happen. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bel_and_the_DragonYup, I agree. But it can't be proven wrong or right. So then what? Interesting dragon story. I'd never heard that before (I'm sure you are aware that that's not offically agreed on as a part of the Bible - only some accept it). I don't know much about those books and stories. |
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