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« on: April 15, 2008, 03:34:41 PM » |
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Anyone heard about the movie, Expelled, coming out relatively soon?
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 03:22:42 PM » |
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Wow. I just found out about this movie. Apparently, it is a documentary about the suppression of intelligent design in the world by "Big Science." It looks pretty controversial (and purposely, I might add). Check out the Wikipedia page which has tons of information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed |
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2008, 05:18:01 PM » |
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You can see trailers and learn more at htttp://expelledthemovie.comIt will be showing at the University 16, Centro Ybor 20, Citrus Park Stadium 20, and Veterans 24. It is not promoting creationism, but intelligent design. And it's not even saying that intelligent design is right, just that there is enough doubt or questions about Darwinism and enough evidence for the possibility of intelligent design that it should be allowed as part of the scientific argument. |
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2008, 12:54:32 PM » |
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From Wikipedia:
Intelligent design is considered to be pseudoscience by the scientific community, primarily because it invokes supernatural powers, makes no predictions, and cannot be verified through repeatable experiments.
I still don't see what the harm is in letting science stay in science class and theology stay in theology class/church.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2008, 04:56:16 PM » |
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I've been "converted" to evolution, but I do not believe for one minute that Darwin's theory disproves the existence of God. Maybe if so many Darwinists stopped making that claim, Christians and people of other faiths would be more likely to embrace it.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2008, 06:17:23 PM » |
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Even Richard Dawkins thinks evolution is compatible with religion. Who exactly is saying this?
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2008, 09:47:31 PM » |
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Nearly every liberal I've ever met.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2008, 03:09:03 PM » |
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Even Richard Dawkins thinks evolution is compatible with religion. Who exactly is saying this? Richard Dawkins has said, "But what if your faith itself is wrong? It is wrong. Utterly, catastrophically, dreadfully wrong. There is no God." While I may be willing to treat God and evolution as compatible, and am willing to find common ground between faith and science, it does not appear from this quote and several other statements he has made that he is willing to do the same. As Amanda contended, when neo-darwinists attack ideas of faith it does cause a reaction in people of faith feeling like they have to defend themselves and even attack darwinism. I'm sure there can be argued the chicken and the egg thing here, but I think this is where we find ourselves. Is faith and science compatible entities? I believe so. As someone who has embraced both, I hope so. But maybe I am "deluded" as Richard Dawkins suggests with the title of his book, "The God Delusion."  |
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2008, 05:00:13 PM » |
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A really good book to read on this subject is "The Language of God" by Francis Collins.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2008, 05:02:17 PM » |
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There is a strict difference between being compatible with religion and being compatible with creationism/intelligent design.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2008, 05:24:53 PM » |
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What part of "there is no God" is compatible with Christianity?
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 10:21:09 AM » |
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Some background on Francis S. Collins, author of The Language of God: Francis S. Collins (born April 14, 1950), M.D., Ph.D., is an American physician-geneticist, noted for his landmark discoveries of disease genes, and his leadership of the Human Genome Project (HGP). He is the director of the National Human Genome Research Institute (NHGRI), one of the 27 institutes and centers that make up the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Maryland. From wikiFor those of you who think only people with letters after their names have valid opinions.  |
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 01:37:11 PM » |
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In his book Collins examines and subsequently rejects creationism and Intelligent Design. "I'm a theistic evolutionist. I take the view that God, in His wisdom, used evolution as His creative scheme. I don't see why that's such a bad idea. That's pretty amazingly creative on His part. " He's a Christian scientist that rejects "Christian science" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_science. |
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 07:13:40 PM » |
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"I'm a theistic evolutionist. I take the view that God, in His wisdom, used evolution as His creative scheme. I don't see why that's such a bad idea. That's pretty amazingly creative on His part. " He's a Christian scientist that rejects "Christian science" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_science. Yep, I know. That's what I love about him.  That's what his book The Language of God is about, actually... it was fun because I learned a TON about genetics that I didn't know before. |
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