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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2008, 09:01:58 PM »

Then I echo your echo!

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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2008, 02:08:42 PM »

If consent exists and safe sex practices are used, then where is the dangerous behavior? 

is sex ever really safe?

HPV can be spread with or without a condom
Herpes can be spread with or without a condom
I guess, safe sex is if you wear a body glove... something that covers every inch or your body that touches the other person






another question...
Most people seem to disagree that sex in itself can be a trap
so if someone proclaims an addiction to sex?
what is that? what is it that they are addicted to? the comfort of a warm hole to bury their penis? a hard object to plug an empty canal?

what happens when two people have sex? do they really become one? does it cause some permanent change in thinking?
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2008, 04:14:50 PM »

is sex ever really safe?

HPV can be spread with or without a condom
Herpes can be spread with or without a condom
I guess, safe sex is if you wear a body glove... something that covers every inch or your body that touches the other person






another question...
Most people seem to disagree that sex in itself can be a trap
so if someone proclaims an addiction to sex?
what is that? what is it that they are addicted to? the comfort of a warm hole to bury their penis? a hard object to plug an empty canal?

what happens when two people have sex? do they really become one? does it cause some permanent change in thinking?

What happens is orgasm. That is what people become addicted to, as far as I can tell. It is similar to an adrenaline rush which people can also become addicted to.

If both people are in agreement, no, sex cannot be a trap. If one person feels trapped in some way, such as they have a different perspective ont eh relationship than the other, they need to speak up. They are not actually trapped.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2008, 04:20:37 PM »

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so if someone proclaims an addiction to sex?
what is that? what is it that they are addicted to? the comfort of a warm hole to bury their penis? a hard object to plug an empty canal?

Brain chemistry changes during sex/arousal.  Most likely it's this chemical reaction coupled with a psychologically conditioned response.

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what happens when two people have sex? do they really become one? does it cause some permanent change in thinking?

1) Well, if it's "good" either one of both people will reach orgasm.  You can probably find a lot of information about the physiological responses to sex on Wikipedia. 2) No. 3) No, not permanent.

I don't know why so many people glorify sex.  It's one of the most basic functions we have as humans.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2008, 04:31:39 PM »

I have a guy friend who believes that women who engage in pre-marital sex are mentally damaged and it will take a very patient man to help them recover.


some people believe that sex produces a permanent bond, but many people don't acknowledge the bond created

so if you have sex with 100 people....u have a special bond with 100 people
A friend of mine who is not a Christian told me that. He said he has had sex with over 100 women and although he cannot remember them all, he says there was some bond etablished with all of them.

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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2008, 04:43:04 PM »

I have a guy friend who believes that women who engage in pre-marital sex are mentally damaged and it will take a very patient man to help them recover.


some people believe that sex produces a permanent bond, but many people don't acknowledge the bond created

so if you have sex with 100 people....u have a special bond with 100 people
A friend of mine who is not a Christian told me that. He said he has had sex with over 100 women and although he cannot remember them all, he says there was some bond etablished with all of them.



Wow. Well count me in as "mentally damaged." I even had a child out of wedlock. Oh, the horror!

I don't agree with the concept of marriage and do not plan to ever get married, so the idea of "pre-marital sex" being bad in some way really doesn't resonate with me.

I also absolutely disagree with this idea of some sort of "special bond." Do you have a bond with everyone you have ever hugged or shaken hands with? Because they are all physical acts. Yes, sex is great when in a loving relationship which can elevate it something else I suppose, but it is still just a physical act. Nothing more.

Oh and I'm lost, how on Earth would two people "become one" through sexual intercourse? Spiritually in some way? Maybe it is this line of thinking that causes people to feel trapped by it??
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2008, 04:59:03 PM »

I'm just playing Devil's advocate

I'm leaning towards believing that sex is whatever you think it is
if you think it is this powerful thing that unites two people, then it may be that
if it is as simple but subtly satisfying like picking your nose then it will be just that.


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the reason I started questioning the idea of sex driving people crazy is because I've seen a couple friends go crazy after sex, but as many suggested, it is probably more than the sex causing that.




another sex question:

is sex necessary? I've heard it said that the basic needs of humans is food, shelter and sex
is it really that important?
do I need to have sex to have a fulfilling relationship?
can I be in a serious relationship and never have sex with the other person?
if so, can such a relationship be maintained for years?

and this brings me to another question:
do we need the company of people of the opposite sex?
does everyone have an innate desire for sex? companionship? love (whatever you perceive love to be)?
are we really social beings or are we just enculturated that way?
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2008, 06:06:28 PM »

is sex necessary? I've heard it said that the basic needs of humans is food, shelter and sex

Necessary for what?  I'm having trouble with the question.  To be quite honest, sex isn't even necessary for reproduction anymore.

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is it really that important?
do I need to have sex to have a fulfilling relationship?
can I be in a serious relationship and never have sex with the other person?
if so, can such a relationship be maintained for years?

1) That would depend greatly on how each member of the relationship values sex.  2) No, or at least not everyone does.  3) Yes 4) Depends.  This idea of being with someone you're physically attracted to for years and not having sex really doesn't make much sense and will probably end up being frustrating for no good reason at all.  If you're not physically attracted, then that is what most would consider a good friendship.

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and this brings me to another question:
do we need the company of people of the opposite sex?
does everyone have an innate desire for sex? companionship? love (whatever you perceive love to be)?
are we really social beings or are we just enculturated that way?

1) We don't need the opposite sex to survive personally; however, if you're heterosexual and you desire the opposite sex, then yes, you would need the opposite sex to fulfill this desire.  2) There are exceptions but yes, everyone has an innate desire for sex which is pronounced during and after puberty.  It's part of our programming so that we reproduce.  3)  We're acculturated by language, and language is social.
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2008, 09:26:53 AM »

another sex question:

is sex necessary? I've heard it said that the basic needs of humans is food, shelter and sex
is it really that important?
do I need to have sex to have a fulfilling relationship?
can I be in a serious relationship and never have sex with the other person?
if so, can such a relationship be maintained for years?

and this brings me to another question:
do we need the company of people of the opposite sex?
does everyone have an innate desire for sex? companionship? love (whatever you perceive love to be)?
are we really social beings or are we just enculturated that way?

Necessary...no. Not at all. As "Anxiety" mentioned, it is not even required for reproduction, also I believe up thread he mentioned masturbation...
Importance is a personal thing, really. In the grand scope of things, no, it really isn't. However, our culture places great importance on sex as an advertising tool. Pick up an issue of Cosmopolitan - every month they dedicate an entire magazine to little else but a discussion about sex. I would assume you could be in a long-term relationship with someone you never have sex with. That, again, would be a personal thing.

By "company of people of the opposite sex" I assume you mean people you are attracted to in some way? Many people would prefer the company of people of their own sex. I don't know that we need it. If we were never around anyone we were attracted to, it might actually increase our productivity and make us happier, but who knows? I think everyone desires sex, yes. Companionship and love as well. However, one can live an entire life never finding love or companionship (or sex, perhaps) and be fine, I would imagine. Or not. There is really no correct answer to any of these questions, you realize.
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