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« on: June 21, 2009, 04:04:29 AM »

I assert that from a Christian and Judaic convention around the first century and prior all sins are social sins.

Is it possible then, for someone to sin alone?
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2009, 10:55:19 AM »

Can you elaborate any?  Maybe give some example?  I'm not quite sure what you mean  Smiley 
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2009, 08:03:12 AM »

Matthew 5:28 - But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Also, if you take Matthew 25:31-46 and Luke 10:30-35. These sins are sins of inaction. So, it depends on what you mean by committing a sin alone.


Is it possible then, for someone to sin alone?

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 02:25:07 PM »

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Matthew 5:28 - But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

You can do this alone?
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 07:48:40 AM »

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Matthew 5:28 - But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

You can do this alone?

I'm just trying to get a better understanding of what you mean by 'alone'? Are you speaking in the theoretical terms of 'if you were the onyl person alive, could you sin?' or in the terms of 'if you're in your bedroom alone, could you sin?'
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A child recently asked me what eight times four is. I thought about it for a while. I put together some experiments. I ran some tests. I searched through numerous published articles on number theory.
I then came back to the child and responded, "What's a 'four'?"
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 03:16:51 PM »

Not exactly, the former, but that works. Let's take it one step further and go with no other people on earth, and no other people before the one person.

Could this person sin? The Genesis story has 2 people, not one -- still social.

Today, especially we have this emphasis of 'individualism'.  We've even changed some of the ten commandments to read individually instead of socially.

'Thou shalt not lie' is far different than 'Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.'
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 10:20:37 PM »

Alright, what's the definition of sin? Are you referring to sins under the new covenant or the old one?

If you are referring to the old covenant, then I would say yes, you can sin. For my argument I take the first four commandments from exodus 20. None of them have any direct social implications but are totally based upon the relationship between man, or a man, and God.

If you are referring to the new covenant, then I'm not sure. Matthew 22:34 would hint that you can sin in isolation, but then you would have to make the argument that loving God is independent of other people. Also, most of the teachings of Jesus were relational. Matthew 12:32 is the only verse I can think of that doesn't necessarily require other people in existence.
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A child recently asked me what eight times four is. I thought about it for a while. I put together some experiments. I ran some tests. I searched through numerous published articles on number theory.
I then came back to the child and responded, "What's a 'four'?"
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