Metaphysics

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Re: Metaphysics

« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2009, 02:51:09 PM »

I'm just basing this on the practical limitations that one cannot communicate his or her ideas with all sapient beings, therefore the communication is not universal, and there is no fundamental or universal belief system for all peoples.

Oh, and to clear up something about your last post -- rationalism was around in the 5th century BCE. Not really "recent" as far as Western culture goes. That Socrates guy was no joker.


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Re: Metaphysics

« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2009, 03:06:08 PM »

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Why should this statement based on the philosophy of relativism be more "right" than one based on universalism? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universality_(philosophy)

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Oh, and to clear up something about your last post -- rationalism was around in the 5th century BCE. Not really "recent" as far as Western culture goes. That Socrates guy was no joker.

Socrates' rationalism was based on first understanding oneself before one can understand the world. This is vastly different from modern rationalism, which states one can not objectively know or understand anything outside the sphere of one's rational reasoning. I don't have too much of a problem with Socrates as it is important to understand one's self, and in his reasoning it was still possible to understand the universality found in the world. And your right, he was no joker.


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Re: Metaphysics

« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2009, 05:32:10 PM »

I'm not saying it's not right, or not possible to have an objective truth. I'm saying it is, for all practical purpose, impossible to communicate universally with all and to all sapient beings. Do you disagree?

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Socrates' rationalism was based on first understanding oneself before one can understand the world.

lol wut?

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I don't have too much of a problem with Socrates as it is important to understand one's self, and in his reasoning it was still possible to understand the universality found in the world.

Well I'm glad you don't have a "problem" with him, but I'm not really seeing how my assertion that it's impossible to communicate ideas universally is the same as dismissing the possibility for universalism altogether.


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