If you noticed Pearson was taught from a young age that “God gonna get you. The devil gonna get you…” "So we had all that mentality. Be good. Be Godly. Be right. Be holy. And if you weren't,then you were gonna burn in hell!" He was taught that he had to be good,Godly,right and holy to get to heaven...if you where to do all of those things you still wouldn't get to heaven. He was taught false doctrine! The only way to get to heaven is by accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior and asking forgiveness of your sins and asking the Holy Spirit to come into your heart and have a personal relationship with Christ.

   His universalistic ideology is false doctrine as well. It is a shame he is leading people straight to hell with his heresy. Of course the scriptures tell us that the Lord died for all (inclusive) but everybody will not be saved (exclusive) because not everyone believes in Christ. Christianity deals with both aspects.

Can you please give me scripture that says we have ALL been redeemed?

Sorry, members only!

Here is some scripture that tells us all are not saved or redeemed.

Matthew 26:28

This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Luke 13:22-27

Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?" He said to them,"Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.' "But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.' "Then you will say, 'We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.' "But he will reply, 'I don't know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!'

Matthew 25:41-46

 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Mark 3:28-29

I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."

John 3:3

In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

John 3:5-6

Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit."

John 3:18

Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

    When someone breaks the law he or she has to go to jail. Anyone with a logical and reasonable mind would not want to be around rapists or murderers and the like that is why they are locked up. God's plan for eternity is the same thing. God is pure and holy and knows no sin and will not be around sin for eternity. God will judge the unrepentant sinner because God is righteous so therefore if He didn't judge He would not be righteous and God can't contradict His own nature.

    Let's take the tabernacle as an example. The layout of the tabernacle and it's courtyard is important because it represents God's prescribed way for man to approach Him. Notice a person could not come from any direction into the tabernacle as he pleased,he had to enter through one gate (Matthew 7:13)(John 14:6) which was always located to the east so as he entered he would be facing west. This is in direct opposition to the pagan sun worshippers of the day who always faced east. The high priest was only allowed to enter the Holy of Holies once a year on the day of atonement to intercede for his people. To get to the Holy of Holies the high priest had to pass through a veil. The word veil in Hebrew means a screen,divider or separator. The veil represents a barrier between man and God,showing that the holiness of God is not something to mess with. God’s eyes are too pure to look on evil and He can tolerate no sin (Habakkuk 1:13). The high priest in the Old Testament represented the coming high priest who is Christ who is the highest priest of all. God is using the Old Testament tabernacle to tell us that we must come to Him only through the way He has provided for us — Jesus Christ.

While I can accept that universalism is foreign and makes no sense to you, I find a theology that is limited to making  judgments on other members of mankind just as illogical.

You statement indicates that Jesus is now higher than God.  Yet the bible clearly states that he called God, Father and that he would be sitting at the right hand of God.  Then, if God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are all inclusive of each other, why would the hand be more powerful that the mind, or the soul of God.  If they are all together, then worshiping any of them is equally as satisfying to the God force if you will.  Didn't Apostle Paul write that the church is made of many parts, yet all are equal and one is not greater than another. Which would certainly be reasonable approach to addressing how the trinity works.  Yet, you feel that only one part is worthy?  What makes the other two, false doctrine?


This verse talks about being baptized, yet John the baptist was baptizing people before Jesus was known.  Since Jesus at this point in the bible is not dead, then he is talking about the tradition of baptizing by the Jews, and allowing the Holy Spirit of God which is also a part of Judaism to enter.  Yet Christianity has made doctrine that the baptism in all about Jesus.  I don't find that is what the verse is talking about.  I guess if it is indeed about Judaism, then the church has for centuries been teaching false doctrine, or maybe it is about using an idea from one religion to help another religion become better. Sort of like universalism.



Matthew 7:1 “Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.

Luke 6:37   “Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn others, or it will all come back against you. Forgive others, and you will be forgiven.

John 3:17
God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.

Another problem that I have with theologies and how they view their gods is that each theology interprets God as being one of us.  Yet, all theologies tell you that God is greater, more loving and we cannot understand the motives, the inner workings or how God even thinks. Yet, as you note, God is just like us. But the above verses would indicate that judgment may not be part of God's plan. If you want to literally take John 3:17- then God has condemned (judged, Jury, and executioner) Jesus. If any of us made that statement about our own children we would not be looked on as loving, there would be charges of child abuse, pre-meditated murder charges, and psychological exams to determine the mindset of someone who would sacrifice their own child just to satisfy a disappointment in their own life.

We also have changed the connotation of the word judge.  Judgment - a misfortune regarded as inflicted by divine sentence, as for sin. It also means - the ability to judge, make a decision, or form an opinion objectively, authoritatively, and wisely, esp. in matters affecting action; good sense; discretion. To critic one's action. 

If God is all that Christianity says It is, then God's judgment probably would lend itself to being more of a critic of a person's life. For God would not want to judge lest It be judged, therefore God would help the person realize what they did that was incorrect and then forgive them. If not, then there is no purpose for Jesus. Jesus "saved" the world from sin, which would include the likes of Hitler, or Jesus did not.   It is not up to us to justify or try to make rational decisions about how God should "penalize" the bad. Instead, if as you say God would not have sin around Him, and God sacrificed Jesus to rid the world of their sin, then all would be forgiven upon death. Only Humankind would want to carry grudges beyond death, for we have an innate desire to want retribution, we are sadly not very forgiving. Maybe if we were, we could get on with life and solve the problems and deficiencies that cause us to act badly towards others. It is our greed and ego to show that we are better then each other that drives a lot of the problems in society and the world.

I do like that you responded with how you believe.  That is admirable.  Maybe some day we will be able to sit down and converse without judging each other but working toward solving a problem in the world that would make us more admirable and as you would note, more "Jesus-like".  If I could be called more "-----like" from each religion, then I would be greatly honored and I think God would look favorably on my actions.

That is a tongue twister - but "call into question" righteous (observing divine laws) judgment " a) opinion or decision given concerning anything".

So, Bishop Carlton has called into question an opinion that concerns the observing of divine laws, and this makes him a false prophet?

He has not stated anything that is not in the bible, he has interpreted the grace of God as Jesus would have done and as you noted in
John 7: 16 So Jesus told them, “My message is not my own; it comes from God who sent me. 17 Anyone who wants to do the will of God will know whether my teaching is from God or is merely my own. 18 Those who speak for themselves want glory only for themselves, but a person who seeks to honor the one who sent him speaks truth, not lies. 19 Moses gave you the law, but none of you obeys it! In fact, you are trying to kill me.”
   20 The crowd replied, “You’re demon possessed! Who’s trying to kill you?”
   21 Jesus replied, “I did one miracle on the Sabbath, and you were amazed. 22 But you work on the Sabbath, too, when you obey Moses’ law of circumcision. (Actually, this tradition of circumcision began with the patriarchs, long before the law of Moses.) 23 For if the correct time for circumcising your son falls on the Sabbath, you go ahead and do it so as not to break the law of Moses. So why should you be angry with me for healing a man on the Sabbath?

Bishop Carlton is speaking on behalf of the human race not himself, so under verse 18 he could qualify as being a true messenger of God.

If this took place 2,000 years ago, Bishop Carlton's story would be very similar to the Apostle Paul.  Both had very strong conservative religious upbringing, both were dedicated to their learned version of the bible with no exceptions. Both went after other theologians who did not speak the truth as noted by their religious leaders.  Then both had an epiphany, Paul had it on a road going to a town, while Carlton had it while watching TV.  Both questioned their religious teachings, both changed their outlook on their own religion, preaching for a more liberal change in their religions, both were criticized by their teachers and fellow theologians. Both lived through hardships and did not recant their stories.  Both claimed to have talked to God, one in the form of Jesus, the other as God, itself. Both were claimed to be false prophets.

Ironic isn't it? 

By the way, no offense taken.  I purposely used those passages to indicate that if one believes in the infallible word of the bible as being written by God, then the verses would indicate the mindset of that writer.  In this case, God is noting that It doesn't judge but forgives. Since we are to be like God, then we should also not judge the actions of the person, but forgive the transgression. In this manner one would not be surrounded or living with sinners, but caring for along with forgiving others for what could be construed as sin. In this way, one would not have their own actions be construed against them either.



 

The most important issue is that both Calvinists and Arminians agree on the essential doctrines (i.e., the deity of Christ, salvation by grace, the resurrection of Christ, the gospel, and monotheism) of the Christian faith. There are going to be disagreements on the non-essentials (i.e.,premillennialism,postmillennialism,amillennialism) which are not as important as the essential's. On the other hand (i.e.,Mormon or Jehovah's Witness, atheist, Muslim)will deny one or more of these essential doctrines. Calvinist's and Armenian's both agree that all are not saved as Bishop Carlton stated. If we exclude any of the essential's then our Christian faith is useless and would fall apart.


I only focused on Christ because He is the central figure of the Christian faith. I believe in all three person's of the trinity. The three person's of the trinity are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful and if any one of the three were removed, there would be no God.

There is an apparent separation of some functions among the members of the Godhead.

The Father chooses who will be saved.

Ephesians 1:4-5 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will

The Son redeems them.

Ephesians 1:7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace.

The Holy Spirit seals them.

Ephesians 1:13-14 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory.