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« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2010, 01:32:15 PM »

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Truth is an elusive object.

There is an absolute and universal truth. Do you agree?
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« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2010, 10:27:56 PM »

No. If there is, we don't have access to it anyway.
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« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2010, 09:31:05 AM »

No. If there is, we don't have access to it anyway.

To make the statement that there is no absolute truth is illogical. By answering "no" to my question you just made an absolute statement which itself implies the existence of absolutes.
You are saying that the very fact there is no absolute truth is the one and only absolute truth. There are several logical problems besides self-contradiction to overcome to believe there are no absolute or universal truths.
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« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2010, 03:43:24 PM »

GP: Is [God] true?
M2: Everything is true.
GP: Even false things?
M2: Even false things are true.
GP: How can that be?
M2: I don't know man, I didn't do it.

GP: Why do you deal with so many negatives?
M2: To dissolve them.
GP: Will you develop that point?
M2: No.
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« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2010, 09:15:08 PM »

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Truth is an elusive object.

There is an absolute and universal truth. Do you agree?

There is always a probability that there is. Just as well a probability that there is not. Then there is a probability that we are incapable of understanding or interpreting a universal truth.  Would be hard to prove, as we don't have the knowledge or access to every piece of the universe, dimension, time or matter to test what is a universal truth.

If you want to say in your belief there is an absolute and universal truth then you may be correct in that "truth".  But if another belief has an opposite version of the "truth" they too may be correct.  As we are unable to view the entirety of the universe to determine what is really the universal "truth". Heck, Anxiety may be correct in that there is no universal "truth".  If I believe that everyone has their own interpretation of what is the "truth" then I may be correct.



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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2010, 10:55:35 AM »

If there is no such thing as absolute truth, then there is nothing ultimately right or wrong about anything.
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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2010, 01:56:41 PM »

If there is no such thing as absolute truth, then there is nothing ultimately right or wrong about anything.

I would agree with your statement to the extent of human knowledge, it is what it is; yet I will hold out that there may be other entities of higher intelligence and knowledge that may be able to correct our thoughts or collaborate them.  Right, wrong, indifferent. All depends on your point of view and which side of the fence you are on.  Cheesy
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« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2010, 04:15:57 PM »

There is no fence in any real sense.
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« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2010, 05:48:36 PM »

Oh contrare,  Wink 

It Board(ers)  Smiley your opinion, Links people together of similar minds, while making some electrifying ideas more bold and charging, why it even has some barbs for those who disagree.

Sometimes it evens seems to make the thoughts more plastic.

No fences in any real sense. Bah Humbug!  There is even your side, their side and our side along with the side that is left out.   :Smiley
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« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2010, 07:49:30 PM »

You create your own order. Everything else is chaos.

Everything requires interpretation, and participatory sense making.
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« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2010, 10:52:37 PM »

Agree
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« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2010, 05:00:14 PM »

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Everything requires interpretation, and participatory sense making.

Not revelation.

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« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2010, 01:22:32 AM »

How would something be 'revealed' without the senses?
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« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2010, 10:44:06 AM »

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How would something be 'revealed' without the senses?

Through the spirit, sometimes referred to as the "inner man".

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« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2010, 11:31:28 PM »

Where's that located?
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